DC Classics.com Nekron Week!
Hawk and Dove Vault Review

Like Noisy, I’m not really into DC Classics wave twenty.  I know the line will continue through the sub, but it seems like a lackluster way to end a generally good run.  Of course my feelings are also compounded by the loss of the true universe.

The story of Hawk and Dove is a bit convoluted.  The original 1968 Hawk and Dove crime fighter duo was portrayed by Hank and Don Hall, two brothers who had opposing viewpoints when it came to violence.  Although they often disagreed, their personalities were perfectly matched to balance each other out.  Don kept Hank from becoming too brutal, while Hank pushed Don from his indecisiveness.  The team’s superhero exploits came to an end in 1985’s Crisis on Infinite Earths, where Don was killed by a shadow demon while trying to help civilians evacuate.

Hank took Don’s death hard, and without his brother to keep him in check, he became a darker and more violent character.  Luckily Hank was able to be roped back in by his new partner, a young lady named Dawn Granger.  She mysteriously received Don’s powers the instant he died.  It wasn’t till later that She and Hank discovered their powers originated from a Lord of Order (for Dove), and a Lord of Chaos (for Hawk).  Together they were to be an earthly representation of the two opposites coexisting.

The story of Hawk and Dove was pretty simple and mostly decent up until this point, but then it got a bit screwy.    I was never a big fan of the Lords of Order and Chaos, and Hawk and Dove started delving pretty deeply into those ideas.  At one point they even traveled to a magical land where they could exist in their “true” bird-like/warrior states.

To make things even worse for the pair, the Armageddon 2001 crossover was just around the corner.  The big bad of this series was Monarch, a future dictator of Earth.  A time traveler named Waverider journeyed back to the current DCU to discover which hero would become this ruthless tyrant.  The original plan by the editors was to make him Captain Atom, but word leaked out and this was changed at the last minute with Hawk being revealed as Monarch.  He traveled back in time and murdered Dawn, causing present Hank to go insane and take the first steps to becoming Monarch.

Eventually Hank/Monarch would go on to absorb Waverider’s energy and become the time traveling villain Extant.  As Extant, he decimated the original JSA, mostly by aging them to their proper age.  And he assisted Hal Jordan/Parallax in erasing the universe in Zero Hour.

Things got even crazier under Geoff Johns in the JSA books:  Atom Smasher and Metron killed Extant by putting him on a crashing plane.  The evil wizard Mordru tricked Hawk into having sex with a comatose Dove, and then disguised her as Lyta Hall and hid her away in a hospital.  Hawk and Dove’s child turned out to be Hawkman’s reincarnated son, Hector Hall.  Hector would become the new Doctor Fate, Hank would die, only to be resurrected in Blackest Night, and Dove would start dating Deadman.

Whew… Got all that?  Continue to page 2…

40 thoughts on “DC Classics.com Nekron Week!
Hawk and Dove Vault Review

  1. Always liked how these two characters were portrayed in the JLU cartoon. The comic continuity recap on the 1st page was really something, though. Terrible, absolutely convoluted stuff driven by an obsessive need to have things line up, instead of a need to simply tell good stories.

    Great pictures, BTW, I’m always impressed with how well you guys do images of white-dominant, semi-glossy action figures.

    1. Thanks Zulu. It’s taken three years of trial and error, but I think I’m finally getting this picture taking thing down. 🙂

  2. Wow I can’t believe all that back story. I’m glad I didn’t know that before haha. The JLU versions were much simpler and straightforward.

      1. It was a bit difficult to condense all that convolution into a single bite. I didn’t want to take it further off track by getting into Holly Granger.

  3. To make that last panel even more Liefeld-esque, just crop the feet out of the picture.

    Oh, and thanks for a great review!

  4. The last picture is a hoot. Two things though are needed to make it Liefeld accurate. 1) Remove the wrist bend and ankles. 2) He must be staring straight at the reader, no head turn EVER!

    1. Have you ever heard of the Rob Liefeld drinking game? What you do is get a bottle of liquor and a Rob Liefeld comic. Start reading the comic, and take a shot every time you see a muscle group that doesn’t exist in real life. No one’s ever made it past the first page.

      1. Nice! I’d have to be half in the bag to even start looking at a Liefeld book…

        Why couldn’t they have given us Don? They could have done either Don or Dawn as a varient, then spared us from WL Super… er… Flash. He’s one of the only figs I’ve had who went directly into the storage bin, besides a few Bats and Hal versions.

        1. yeah, there were at least six things wrong with this wave, and not making the Flashes variants for one slot was the first. Many would have appreciated a Don variant for the Dove slot, even tho he wasn’t part of Brightest Day theme (his grave *refusing* the call of the Black Lanterns WAS a plot point in Blackest Night, tho!!)

  5. Hawk and Dove were the 2 characters I was super excited for in wave 20..before I stopped collecting the line but seeing these pics makes me wish I still had some dcuc so I could buy these guys!

    Great job as usual Vault!

  6. I feel like I probably would have broken down and picked these up if it had been the Don Hall version of Dove.

    1. It would have been neat to see that. But I think they’d have to use a teen body, and unfortunately I doubt the budget was there for a new head sculpt.

  7. My experience with Hawk and Dove come from the DC Versus TCG. This duo was an awesome pair in my Teen Titans deck. Other than that, I didn’t know anything about them so thank you for the re-cap.

    I laughed at that final picture.

  8. “Nekron Week” is turning into “Convoluted Character History Week”. That’ll all go away when you guys get to Green Arrow, right?

    ; )

    1. lol, actually GA turned out pretty well. It probably helps that I focused more on the figure than the character. 😛

  9. I’m actually a little curious after the crazy recap – where was the story of Hector being conceived told and where does Holli fit in?

    I’m aware of the Lyta/Hector story in JSA, but not of how it got there.

    Great review of solid, if slightly dull, figures.


    1. I don’t know about the Dawn/Hector bit, I just remember a “woman” being in the hospital and giving birth, but it wasn’t revealed who she was that I recall. Of course, Hector later joined his wife Lyta in Morpheus’ realm for no reason other than Geoff was leaving JSA wouldn’t let anyone else play with his toys. @_@

      By “Holli”, do you mean Dawn’s never-before-mentioned-sister-who-became-Hawk? Yeah, Liefeld did a Teen Titans two parter introducing her, which I intentionally skipped (just like his now cancelled DCnU52 H&D series), so basically she pops up out of nowhere and assumes Hank’s mantle.

    2. Yeah, it was around that same time in JSA. They used the excuse of Mordru’s magic was keeping her hidden.

      It didn’t really make sense at the time either…

      1. Actually, they could be Figuarts stands. They kind of look like the one that came with my Monkey D. Luffy figure.

    1. You’re all right!

      The bases and arms are Figma stands. The clip holding Dove is from Figma Append Miku, while the clip holding Hawk is from Figuarts Skyrider.

      Good eye guys.

  10. Great review! What a crazy back story for these two. Also, it’s good to know that Hawk’s cape won’t work for Azrael. I had planned on picking him up just for this reason.

  11. So I’m the only one who’s followed these two since forever? 🙁
    I think my only complaints are the whites are too grey and look dingy, and Dove’s cape needs to be longer.

    And I still think they could have given these two variants, in Kestrel for Hawk (same figure, just purple/black) and “Light Dove” (yellow instead of blue), but I had to buy extras and break out the paints for these two. Doing “Chaos Beast Hawk” is a lot harder. the recent ML Loki has a nice furry “shawl” I can use, but CBH also has loose hair on his head. :/

    I always wanted DCD to do a 3pk or a Titans wave with these two (with those variants! or at least Kestrel), but they never did until both Brightest Day waves were announced at roughly the same time by DC and Mattel. D’OH! Now I’m trying to think who a decent buck for Don would be? (w3 Sinestro?)

    btw, I made a custom DCTAS Dawn from a BTAS Batgirl and I think I finished that BTAS Hawk…? (I still have her, not sure about him?) both of those were before JL(U) hit, and when we got H&Don then, I immediately bought a second set to custom Kestrel. LOL!

    No clue who the new villain pair running around in the DCnU52 series was. He looked like Kestrel and she had the yellow “Light Dove” costume. I saw in blurbs that they were both named but neither was “Kestrel” (I think she was Sparrow??), and it looked like Rob changed Hank’s white to grey?? gah.

    1. oh yeah, is that Azrael from the Batgirl 2pk? I saw that ONCE, and passed it up, thinking I would see it again later. NOPE!

      1. Wow, sounds like you’ve been waiting for these two for a long time, Brain.

        It’s technically the first release of Azreal from the DC Superheroes line, but I don’t think the two pack one is any different.

        I definitely wouldn’t have minded seeing a variant Kestrel figure. Especially since he’s so easy to do once Hawk is done.

    2. I agree on the colors and Dove’s cape.

      I’d also have bought variants if they were Holly and Don. Mattel could have doubled their Hawk and Dove dollar.

      1. YES to Don, HELL NO!! to Holly. That came out of nowhere (aka Liefeld’s ass) and was a worse idea than the short-lived Grunge Dude Dove/Military School She-Hawk in the 90s. Did those two appear anywhere outside their mini and the Titans one-shot with Gar’s Titans West membership drive?

  12. I love these figures and I have wanted them for years. I really enjoyed the Hawk and Dove mini-series that happened right after Crisis (the first one) and where they were college students in DC and fighting Kestrel. I never read their ongoing series and I’m glad I didn’t because it probably would have ruined the characters for me.

    1. Yeah, that last bit of their continuity really wasn’t necessary. Although, they were awesome in Birds of Prey.

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