{"id":1219,"date":"2009-08-20T07:04:09","date_gmt":"2009-08-20T12:04:09","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.itsalltrue.net\/?p=1219"},"modified":"2012-04-18T21:51:54","modified_gmt":"2012-04-19T02:51:54","slug":"truetorial-collect-connect-darkseid-is-a-tall-order","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.itsalltrue.net\/?p=1219","title":{"rendered":"Truetorial: Collect &#038; Connect <br>Darkseid is a Tall Order"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img decoding=\"async\" align=left src=\"newsimages\/noisyOPED.png\"><\/p>\n<p>This is ItsAllTrue.Net&#8217;s first Truetorial feature. Truetorials will be op\/ed columns that discuss a particular topic in-depth. This column was one of the first things we wanted to do here at ItsAllTrue, but the website has had other plans for us and we&#8217;re happy to follow where it leads. But we&#8217;ve got some time now that the convention season is wrapping up and we thought it was time to give the Truetorial a spin. We&#8217;re not ready to give it a regular day yet, but if we like it, you should be seeing them on a regular basis. Just think of them as a kinder, gentler companion piece to Tuesday&#8217;s Mr. Rant. <!--more--><\/p>\n<p><center><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"truetorial\/dark1.jpg\"><\/center><\/p>\n<p>This week we&#8217;re going to focus on Darkseid&#8217;s height and specifically how it relates to DC Classics. If you&#8217;ve frequented any toy forums that spend some time on Mattel product lately, you&#8217;ve probably<strong> heard the rumor that the next unannounced wave (DCUC12) might feature a Darkseid Collect &#038; Connect figure<\/strong>. Now, technically, the toy line already has a Darkseid from it&#8217;s predecessor toyline, DC Superheroes. That Darkseid, while sculpted excellently by the Four Horsemen and generally considered to fit in by theme and articulation with DC Classics, is often regarded as being too small. He stands at 7&#8243; and while he is taller than the 6.25&#8243; DC Classics Superman, he may not be tall enough to be in scale. How much taller should he be? Should a taller one warrant a C&#038;C spot? And how big is too big? Those are the questions this Truetorial will attempt to answer.<\/p>\n<p> Darkseid, for most of the first thirty-five years of his existence, is listed at 7&#8242; 6&#8243;. This height can be found in his classic Who&#8217;s Who entry and pretty much every other bio published up until at least the New Gods Secret Files in 1998. This height generally makes Darkseid a head taller than Superman and in most of his appearances during those first, formative 35 years he was drawn as such. This height translated into other medias as well: Super Powers, Superman: TAS, Justice League, even the recent Mortal Kombat game featured him only a head taller than the other DC characters. Perhaps of special importance due to the nature of DC Classics, his Super Powers figure stands at 5.5&#8243; tall and is in scale to the 4.5&#8243; line.<\/p>\n<p>At 7&#8243; exactly, the Darkseid is a hair shorter than he should be based on his classic height. Had the DCSH been able to grow past the 7&#8243; cutoff and be a properly scaled 7.5&#8243; figure, it would have looked something like this:<\/P><br \/>\n<center><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"truetorial\/dark7.jpg\"><\/center><\/p>\n<p>In 2004, Michael Turner and Jeph Loeb returned the original Supergirl to continuity in a story involving Darkseid. Now, I&#8217;ll admit some bias here. Despite the impressive artwork, I can&#8217;t stand that story. It featured a few of my favorite comic book pet peeves:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Shunting off a Modern character for a Silver Age one: PAD&#8217;s Supergirl for Kara<\/li>\n<li>Pointless death of a character: Harbinger<\/li>\n<li>Overused plot point: Trapping Darkseid in the Source Wall (umpteenth time)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>I&#8217;ll stop at three and not get into Darkseid bursting from inside the Kent&#8217;s home (it&#8217;s okay, they were out shopping!). Something else that storyline (&#038; Michael Turner) are known for is dramatically increasing the size of Darkseid. In the 2004 DC Comics Encyclopedia, Darkseid is now listed at 8&#8242; 9&#8243;. While this should be considered canon as the last published Darkseid Who&#8217;s Who, we have to keep in mind that it was published in 2004, during or near to that Turner storyline being published. And since his appearance in that one six-issue storyline, Darkseid has gone back to being his shorter, classic self as seen in &#8220;Death of the New Gods&#8221; and &#8220;Final Crisis&#8221;. The encyclopedia, if published in any other six month period, might still list 7&#8242; 6&#8243; for his height.<\/p>\n<p>Still, the impact of the Turner storyline can not be underestimated. Despite being a blip in his thirty-five year history, the popularity of the intial issues of Superman\/Batman&#8217;s run as well as the celebrity status afforded to Jeph Loeb and Michael Turner elevate those appearances for many fans. In fact, if DCUC12 does indeed include Darkseid as a C&#038;C, it may be the vocalness of these fans that have pushed Mattel to go back to the drawing board on the figure.<\/p>\n<p> Despite his shrinking back to 7&#8242; 6&#8243; in recent years, we&#8217;ll list the 8&#8242; 9&#8243; height as &#8220;modern&#8221; because his biographies still say that&#8217;s the case.<\/P><br \/>\n<center><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"truetorial\/dark8.jpg\"><\/center><\/p>\n<p>Finally, there is a fan contingent out there who might want Darkseid even bigger than any canon would suggest. Since we know the maximum height of a C&#038;C, we&#8217;ve included a scaled image of a 10&#8243; Darkseid just to see how it would look. <\/p>\n<p><center><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"truetorial\/dark10.jpg\"><\/center><\/p>\n<p>So, where does all this scale talk leave us? First, the DCSH Darkseid is definitely too short. But is he so short, we need a new one? My personal preference would be to have him at his classic height of 7&#8242; 6&#8243;, but I don&#8217;t think a half-inch would warrant a new figure, let along a C&#038;C. I&#8217;d rather grin and bear the slightly underscale Darkseid than see the DCUC12 C&#038;C to turn out to be a new, larger version of the DCSH figure.<\/p>\n<p><P>I also prefer the smaller Darkseid in the comics. I believe his ominousness should be portrayed through his actions or his manipulations. I think making him a larger character to brawl with a tiny Superman is not what Darkseid&#8217;s character is about &#8211; that&#8217;s what Kalibak is for. Why would someone that can kill you with his eyes ever fistfight you anyway? <\/P><\/p>\n<p>But, that&#8217;s not the last word on the subject. Many fans disagree with the notion that Darkseid should be only as tall as Yao Ming and do want him bigger. If that&#8217;s what we&#8217;re going to see in Wave 12, than more power to them. I just hope he&#8217;s not too big. Maybe he can come in around 8&#8243; so he&#8217;s big enough to warrant the C&#038;C, but no so big that he looks ridiculous on the shelf (if he&#8217;s too big, he&#8217;ll be my first C&#038;C going in the extras box).<\/p>\n<p>And if Darkseid is the C&#038;C will it just be a scaled version of the DCSH (with hopefully a new, larger head) or will he be made of Darkseid-specific pieces fitted around the Brimstone\/Kilowog or Lobo\/Despero bodies?<\/P><\/p>\n<p>When Wave 12 is revealed, what do you expect to see? What do you want to see? Let us know in the comments section below. <\/p>\n<p><center><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"truetorial\/darksizes.jpg\"><\/center><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This is ItsAllTrue.Net&#8217;s first Truetorial feature. Truetorials will be op\/ed columns that discuss a particular topic in-depth. This column was one of the first things we wanted to do here at ItsAllTrue, but the website has had other plans for us and we&#8217;re happy to follow where it leads. But we&#8217;ve got some time now [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":13,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"ngg_post_thumbnail":0,"_themeisle_gutenberg_block_has_review":false,"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_is_tweetstorm":false,"jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_options":[]},"categories":[6,10,201],"tags":[202,2557,20,203,2560,2580,204],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/pObc6-jF","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":2532,"url":"http:\/\/www.itsalltrue.net\/?p=2532","url_meta":{"origin":1219,"position":0},"title":"Most Requested Figures: Mera (DC Classics &#038; DC Direct)","date":"November 13, 2009","format":false,"excerpt":"","rel":"","context":"In &quot;DCClassics.Com&quot;","img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":1474,"url":"http:\/\/www.itsalltrue.net\/?p=1474","url_meta":{"origin":1219,"position":1},"title":"Truetorial: A Wave of Doubt (DCUC12)","date":"September 10, 2009","format":false,"excerpt":"Toy collecting can be a strange endeavor for me. 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