Cinematic Confabulation v2

[PrfktTear]

nope, not one bit!

[manekochan]

Agreed.

[manekochan]

UGH! Just finished watching "the Divide". Bleak, bleak bleak. This is one of those movies that you feel worse for having seen. Like your soul now has a sheen of slime on it. It does what it sets out to do and does so very well, but I don't go in for post-apocalyptic movies almost as a rule. The serious ones tend to be too bleeeeaaakkk and depressing for me. And, hey! Guess, what! This one is no exception. Of course, you already knew that, since I... told you in my 2nd sentence. But, good Lord...
I think I've expressed my odd relationship with films like this-- I call them "soul-wearying". 8mm, Apt Pupil, Pan's Labyrinth (depending on my mood), The Prestige, 28 Days/Weeks Later, Carriers, I Am Legend, Dawn of the Dead, shows like the Walking Dead-- I enjoy them to an extent. In fact, the majority of them that I've seen have been good. But, while I'm watching them I feel it chipping away at something inside me. This movie, while fairly good and BRILLIANTLY brutal and realistic, is one of the films that I never need to see again and was difficult to watch the first time. It only solidifies my previous thought that, if the apocalypse does happen, I hope like hell I die during the initial explosion/invasion/meterostrike, whatever.

[dayraven]

so who was in this "divide?" what was the jist?

[twofisted]

I finally saw Human Centipede2. I saw the unrated "directors cut". Being a fan of the first one, i can say that i didnt hate it...but i also didnt really like it. After reading a few articles about the writer/directors intention with the 2nd film, i understood exactly what he was trying to convey. I just didnt care for the execution. It just looked like he made up a list of disgusting things mankind is capable of...and threw them in no particular order into a film. The only thing i liked....maybe like is the wrong word..perhaps i thought it was funny, was the use of the color brown.

Reading recently that theres a 3rd movie in the works, i'm not sure where you can go.

[dayraven]

Reading recently that theres a 3rd movie in the works, i'm not sure where you can go.

i still haven't seen 2 yet, but that's exactly what i thought after seeing 1. and really, dieter laser was such a part of that first one. that guy single handedly put german tourism back 70 years, that's REALLY saying something. i find it improbable, to say the least, that that kind of casting lightning would strike twice. so without that in the mix, you just have to up the gross factor, and the genius of 1 was in striking that balance of the gross you were seeing and the gross you were imagining... you upset the pH of that petri dish and you kill the whole culture of the movie. i still want to see 2, and given that i'm alrady going to hell for 1, i'll see 3, but i don't expect them to hold up barring something really spectacular.

[twofisted]

I guess you could almost call 2 a parody of Human Centipede 1, based on the whole "torture porn" genre of horror films. If Tom Six was smart...he could make his 3rd film a parody of the whole current state of Hollywood in general. Really make it look like a "Hollywood" movie. Maybe make it a big budget parody with the original actors but this time its a "genetic" type story with a true human centipede being born in a lab blah blah blah. A commentary on the state of Hollywood movies thru yer own creation thru parody. Now that i'd see. Just another shock fest would bore me

[dayraven]

that might indeed be intriguing... but from what i understand, he's going for the uber overkill in 3. i predict silliness instead of horror.

[Lay Ze-Man]

I saw the first one, and I won't see any of the others.
In theory a great concept, just not enough substance for me.

Almost a so bad it's good movie, but not enough "funny" parts, and the gore stuff actually pulled punches IMO and was way too unbelievable to take seriously in any way.

[dayraven]

really? i totally loved the first one... oh well. just proves not every movie is for every person. i actually didn't feel it was gory at all, but that was to it's credit.

on the other hand, i don't see gore like most people do, apparently. like, a boatload of movie goers thought the hostel movies were "torture porn" and "gore fests" and i found them a complete bore and far too dry to justify being gorey at all. like, i guess, being a huge fan of "dead alive" when i hear the words "gorefest" or 'super gory," that's my point of reference. and the tobe hooper TCM is the standard for "realistic gore." anything other than that failed in execution. but i do feel like centipede 1 hit that mark, of leaving enough up to the imagination to make things really uncomfortable for the viewer. and i loved dieter laser, he was super euro creepy for me. was it "henry, portrait of a serial killer?" no... but it gave me nightmares and that's a pretty high watermark for me.

i actually had a really good one several weeks after the initial wave of nightmares... most of them were just uncomfortable dreams that featured items, sets, characters, sounds, etc... but i had one a few weeks later that i was trapped in this huge factory complex that was a whole slew of docs stitching together centipedes as part of an on-demand mail order pede factory, and there was really terrifying sequence where i was running from the docs and trying to work my out of this huge complex, and i was running through all these "processing" rooms, and it occurred to me how rotten the outside world must be for there to be a pede factory and i almost considered giving up. that was really spooky and even now, some of the imagery is coming back to memory... great nightmare, cuz this stuff would make the average king novel look like a dick and jane book. i'm seriously sick in the head, and that dream messed me up.